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BIS
Adverb. Early 17th century.
[French & Italian, from Latin bis twice.]
Encore; again; twice; specifically as a direction in a musical score indicating that a passage is to be repeated.
Or so I've always been lead to believe; that it's one of those peculiar quirks of English's linguistic promiscuity, adopting a French word that sounds cultured and cosmopolitan, whereas to French ears encore used in this sense sounds distinctly odd. And authoritative references back this up: bis is defined as encore after all, and the OED's entry for encore plainly states that, in French, it is not used in the English sense.
These things are fickle, however, and I've had more than one Frenchman protest that they do indeed say "Encore!" when they want a bis, together with "Une autre!" when they want an encore, which is all frightfully confusing. If you want the advice of someone that doesn't speak French and has never been to a classical concert in France, then I would suggest just going along with the crowd (unless they're rioting, of course). And really, if a thousand people are chanting "Bis! Bis! Bis!" and one lone voice lets slip an encore, is anyone going to notice, let alone mind?
Or maybe they will. I don't know. This is France, after all. I think I might just go and see Daft Punk instead. Good luck, mes amis.
Can you shed any light on the French use of bis?
What do you call at the end of the performance when you want an encore?
Do please tell below.
In Belgium, we call "bis", too. It's a proper word in Dutch, whereas "encore" isn't. I don't know how or why this came to be, but as with a lot of things over here, it was probably something the French started and we just went along with.
ReplyDeleteSee? I wasn't making it all up.
DeleteSo encore doesn't mean encore? Ed, honestly, what is going on? Can't somebody with some sort of clout sort this sort of thing out for the rest of us?
ReplyDeleteBookmakers don't, whales aren't fish (apparently), Omega 3 oils AREN'T good for you, and now this. I'm hugely frustrated and disillusioned with it all.
Why are they not fish? They swim, like fish. They live in the sea, like fish. They eat fish, like fish. They look quite like, if we're all honest with ourselves, fish. But they don't lay eggs, so they can't be fish? If you laid an egg, and I think you probably could if you concentrated, I still wouldn't go around saying 'ed's a fish.'
I like to blend-in at parties - I suppose that makes me some sort of moth.
-clueless.
No, C! Encore does mean encore in English, but in France they don't say encore when they want an encore - they say bis (apparently).
DeleteAnd listen ... you might want to sit down for this ... did you know that a peanut isn't a nut? It's not even anything *like* a nut! Isn't that amazing? C? Isn't it? Hello? C? Ceeeeeeeeee!!????
Peanuts aren't ......!? Next you'll be telling me the name 'London' has it's roots in ancient Welsh, and that dolphins, and this might finish me off completely, aren't fish either!
ReplyDelete....I mean what idiot, or nut if you will, had the liguistic-dyspepsia to call something a peaNUT, when it is palpably neither pea nor nut. Probably the same genius that classified whales as mammals. I'm going to bed for a very long time, and when I wake up I want this entire mess cleared up.
ReplyDeleteOh dear ... this is making me feel very impotent ...
DeleteA peanut is a pea for god sake
DeleteAnd a whale is a mammal you fool
DeleteSo if I was to sing a song for someone "Anonymous" and said Shut Up ( hypothetically ) a few times,
ReplyDeleteAnd other people chanted again! Again!
Would that suffice as an"Encore"?
I suppose it would depend on whether they were asking for you to sing again or for the anonymous heckler to tell you to shut up again.
Delete"anonymous" is clueless, and I'm fairly sure terminators can't sing.
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